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Metra- Have you tried Elysee BioAccel. Has 80 peptides Just wondering.

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After I washed my face tonight I took a good look in the magnifying mirror and my skin did look pretty good. I'm not going to give up yet. I think Monday I'll call the company and see what they suggest to help with the dryness.

The paper that came with the products said to expect changes like dryness but use for the full thirty days to see results. I'm determined to continue, I'll post after I talk to someone with the co.

The eye cream irritated my eyes too...that's why I just use the night cream on my face and sometimes the serum. I use my Dr. Graf Lactobionc eye cream with it and no problem. No irritation and really great results. Eye cream are super emolient and can creep to the eyeball easier, so that my be the problem. If I use my regular aninogenesis night cream there close to the eye area it is not as bad, so I use it under the eye but not too close. Never had that problem with any of the Dr. Graf eye cream. I think the 2 lines work well together, like Carolinamodel stated. I am the opposite from her though and just use it undermakeup on a clean face (makes a good primer for me.) and and also with the Dr. Graf products. Then before bed I do all my Dr. Graf products with the serums and treatments first.

Metra,

Go up a few posts. I will respond for Marilyn since she is not here. She gave me her full routine and what kits were good bargains in Dr Graff.

It is in this thread but a few posts up. I actually wrote down and typed Marilyn's routine. She will be charging me for a consultation

BTW~~It has been one month since I had some dental work done. I went back today and the dentist asked if I had cosmetic surgery done by my DR. My dentist knows my doctor did cosmetic surgery at one time. YIPEE, I may have drying skin but it is younger looking skin. I can deal with the dryness using other products also. I can tell a huge difference in my skin now and it has not been 30 days yet.

Also, I am going thru my serum faster then my other products. I need a HUGE bottle of serum.

My suggestion would be to try a kit iwth 5-8 products first...one that has her rejuvination pads in them. It's kind of like trying her star products when she has a kit put together. I am 49 and I love the Lactobionic line also. It is formulated for older skin and helps put the moisture back into it and softens lines. Everybody can benefit from retinol..so that's why I say a combo kit is great for starters...She doesn't have alot available right now , but the kit Sandgirl is getting sounds great. I love, love , love the copper infusion duo....really firms the neck, chin and jowl areas for me and has results fast...you will be amazed..the mask really gives the only firming results I have found in a topical that is not one of those "temporary" skin tighteners..but a product that shows results with continued use. I have incorporated the Aminogenesis line with what I use. As far as Dr. Graf, products, I use the Lactobionic cleanser and eye serum, the AMLA Booster (use pre= everything to help all your products work better..it is a quick absorbing serum), hyaluronic duo and collagen serums, Lactobionic gel, Retinol moisturizer,..and then my makeup. Everyday for a week use the copper infusion mask, then after 2-3 times per week...I do this anytime during the afternoon when I have no makeup on and not piling cream on..then follow with moisturizer. I also use the Retinol Rejuvination pads after cleansing before my bedtime routine. They smooth and exfoliate the skin gently over time and help the look of pores. (The lactobionic gel is my secret to the poreless look..totally smoothed out my skin). I know it seems like alot. I bought kits over time and found what worked for me the best. Kits by far are the best bargain..SO much for the price. Maybe try one kit and the copper duo to start and go from there. If you have some redness when trying the retinol products , do not be alarmed..just change your routine to every 2-3 days until your skin gets used to it. That's what I did. I got real red at first and gave up..tried again later and took it slow, and WOW , was I ever glad I gave it more time. I am amazed at how will this works for me . I have used them daily for a year and a half and occasionaly add Ponds moisturizer over my products at bedtime if I am extra dry. Other than that, a few months ago I added the Aminogenesis night moisturizer and serum at bedtime to help replace amino acids our skin use as we age. I think I have found my personal winning combination. I hope this was helpful and not too much overload

the above is from my previous post...in case you still wanted it..of course I add other items from the line and change around my routine when I feel the need....just to let you know..whenever I try a new product I almost always break out...I think it is my skin adjusting, but if I give it time then the breakouts stop and I can see how a product really works...When I tried M. Asam the breakout with hard pimples and pores did not stop..It was just the reaction I had..I do better with the physician grade ingredients than with plant products..I have allergies and the phycian grade products have less fragrance and plant extracts that make me react. That's just for me but may work great with others..hope this was helpful. M

Amino Genis did not work for me. I ordered it before it came to HSN for twice the amount of money and I never seen any difference in my skin. Don't waste your money on this.